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 Friday, July 25, 2003 - 04:19 PM
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I understand that Harry used it because he was so angry at Bellatrix, but didn't Moody say in GoF that the use of an Unforgivable Curse on another human being could land you a life sentence in Azkaban? Or maybe it's okay to use it on a Death Eater or to fight Voldermort?
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Friday, July 25, 2003 - 06:44 PM
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Well it didn't actually work, so I don't think it counts.
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Friday, July 25, 2003 - 08:45 PM
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He didnt actually affect her... so that isnt really illegal... but yah i was surprised that he did that, even if he was really p.o.'d
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Friday, July 25, 2003 - 09:08 PM
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I was so annoyed when the curse didn't work! Harry was soooo angry, it made me sad that his anger wasn't enough to use the curse. I was proud that he tried though...
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Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 03:17 AM
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I most certainly wasn't proud. Using an Unforgiable is going too far. I'm also glad that it didn't work. If it had it would mean that Harry actually enjoyed causing pain.
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Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 11:22 AM
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But if Harry is unable to use an Unforgivable Curse, does that mean that he has to kill Voldermort the muggle way? Plus their wands don't work properly against each other...
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Monday, July 28, 2003 - 11:30 AM
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I thought it was a bit shocking that Harry tried to use the Cruciatus Curse. To use a Star Wars analogy, it seemed like he was getting dangerously close to the "dark side". Of course, since he was feeling "righteous anger" (as Bellatrix put it) as opposed to the sadistic enjoyment of torturing someone, the curse didn't work properly, so he probably wouldn't technically get in trouble for using it (not to mention that no one witnessed it except for Harry and Bellatrix). But, I think Harry needs to be *very* careful in the future to avoid any Unforgiveable Curses, even if he faces Voldi (keep in mind that Dumbledore didn't try to kill Voldiwhen when he was dueling with him; I don't think that Dumbli would ever use an Unforgiveable Curse). I think Harry will need to find some other way to get rid of Voldi (perhaps the locked room or the veil room in the Department of Mysteries).
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Monday, July 28, 2003 - 03:39 PM
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Using an Unforgivable Curse is supposed to get you a life sentence in Azkaban, but a) Harry's curse didn't work, and b) there might be something similar to clause 7 stating exceptions to this law
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Monday, July 28, 2003 - 09:34 PM
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Well aurors were given permission to use the unforgivable curses on Death Eaters and Harry wants to be an auror so......
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Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 03:02 AM
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lol so what? 
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Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 11:34 AM
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I was shocked when Harry did that, but I was feeling as Harry was when I read it. I thought he had the right to, she had just kiled Sirius and I was really upset. I wonder how, if anyway, will he kill Vldie? he might have to step up to the plate and use the Unforgivable Curses. I HIGHLY doubt Voldie will go easy on him!
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Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 04:43 PM
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When I read the bit when Harry uses the Cruciatus Curse, I was like, GO HARRY! I mean, Bellatrix had just killed Sirius, and I think I would probably have felt the same if I was in that situation (though I probably wouldn't have had the guts to actually attack her). Anyway, nobody noticed that Harry used the curse, did they? Did they...? 
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Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 04:47 PM
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I dunno, it was @ night and there was so much magic used around....perhaps they couldn't locate the curse
(perhaps they just can't locate the unforgiveables!)
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Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 10:54 AM
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Well, if the spell doesn't work, then technically you didn't really do the spell, and techinacally you didn't really do anything wrong.
And I guess it's true that the Ministry can't trace that certain spell. Priori Incantanum can't prove that someone used the Crucatius, can it? (Nothing happened with Voldie's wand in GoF.) And unless someone can testify that they saw it performed, there's nothing that can be done, unless Veritaserum is used on Harry.
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Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(RobertLee @ Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 03:17 AM) I most certainly wasn't proud. Using an Unforgiable is going too far. I'm also glad that it didn't work. If it had it would mean that Harry actually enjoyed causing pain. She killed Sirius. Pain and more pain for her.
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Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 05:55 PM
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QUOTE(M@rseaM@lfoy @ Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 03:27 AM) QUOTE(RobertLee @ Saturday, July 26, 2003 - 01:17 AM) I most certainly wasn't proud. Using an Unforgiable is going too far. I'm also glad that it didn't work. If it had it would mean that Harry actually enjoyed causing pain. I think at that point Harry wouldn't be too aversed to causing pain. However, the fact that he is not the kind of person to truly relish causing pain is probably why he couldn't get it to work. I don't think anger is enough. That's one of the things that make the unforgivable curses to horrible; the fact that the only people who can really do them are the vindictive people that truly enjoy them. These are the people that you really don't want to have the power to use them. I wonder how they didn't pick up on the Moody imposter. The real Moody doesn't seem like he would enjoy causing pain. Yes, he fights bad people, but I doubt he really enjoys causing them pain.
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